RNZ: Sunday Morning | 15 December 2018 | 0h 22m | Listen Later 
Interview with former NZ politician Marilyn Waring about her books Counting for Nothing and Still Counting. Waring argues that the economy relies on women’s unpaid work and the environment, yet this is ignored and undervalued by conventional economic measures. She lays out a vision for what a new, genuinely transformative economic measure would look like.