When Doing the Right Thing Makes You a Criminal

The Ezra Klein Show | 5 December 2019 | 1h 45m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Wayne Hsiung about his journey from academic and corporate lawyer to facing prison for his work rescuing sick, injured animals from slaughterhouses. Challenging, inspiring and deeply thoughtful.

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Political Animals with Leah Garcés

The Ezra Klein Show | 9 September 2019 | 1h 32m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Leah Garcés, Executive President of Mercy for Animals, and the author of Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry. Discusses her work to reduce animal suffering by building coalitions with industrial chicken farmers. A challenging listen for those of us not vegetarian. An object lesson in how to balance condemnation and compromise when seeking to effect social change.

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