When Doing the Right Thing Makes You a Criminal

The Ezra Klein Show | 5 December 2019 | 1h 45m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Wayne Hsiung about his journey from academic and corporate lawyer to facing prison for his work rescuing sick, injured animals from slaughterhouses. Challenging, inspiring and deeply thoughtful.

Political Animals with Leah Garcés

The Ezra Klein Show | 9 September 2019 | 1h 32m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Leah Garcés, Executive President of Mercy for Animals, and the author of Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry. Discusses her work to reduce animal suffering by building coalitions with industrial chicken farmers. A challenging listen for those of us not vegetarian. An object lesson in how to balance condemnation and compromise when seeking to effect social change.