We Live in The Good Place. And We’re Screwing it Up

The Ezra Klein Show | 28 October 2019 | 1h 27m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Kate Marvel on climate change. Focuses on evaluating whether climate change is an existential threat that must take priority ahead of all other concerns.

Julia Galef on How to Argue Better and Change your Mind More

The Ezra Klein Show | 25 July 2017 | 1h 34m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Julia Galef about her work focused on how we think and argue, as well as the cognitive biases and traps that keep us from hearing what we’re really saying, hearing what others are really saying, and preferring answers that make us feel good to answers that are true. Discusses what she’s learned about thinking more clearly and arguing better, signalling, motivated reasoning, probabilistic debating, which identities help us find truth, and how to make online arguments less terrible.

When Meritocracy Wins, Everybody Loses

The Ezra Klein Show | 23 September 2019 | 1h 31m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Daniel Markovits about ideas from his book The Meritocracy Trap. Argues that meritocracy – a system set-up to expand opportunity, reduce inequality and end aristocracy – has become exactly what it was set up to combat: a mechanism for intergenerational wealth transfer that leaves everyone worse off in the process. Unconvincing on the economics, but valuable perspective on the unnoticed values, practices, arguments, and assumptions that govern our everyday lives.

Political Animals with Leah Garcés

The Ezra Klein Show | 9 September 2019 | 1h 32m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Leah Garcés, Executive President of Mercy for Animals, and the author of Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry. Discusses her work to reduce animal suffering by building coalitions with industrial chicken farmers. A challenging listen for those of us not vegetarian. An object lesson in how to balance condemnation and compromise when seeking to effect social change.

Nir Eyal on Indistractable

The Ezra Klein Show | 1 August 2019 | 1h 19m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Nir Eyal about ideas in his book Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life. Debates whether big tech is addictive and whether good discipline suffices to manage digital distraction.

This Changed How I Think About Love (with Alison Gopnik)

The Ezra Klein Show | 13 June 2019 | 1h 34m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Alison Gopnik on parenting, friendships, marriage, and schooling. What makes us feel love for each other. How we can best care for each other. How our minds really work in the formative, earliest days, and what we lose as we get older. The role community is meant to play in our lives. Draws on ideas in The Gardener and the Carpenter.

Work as Identity, Burnout as Lifestyle

The Ezra Klein Show | 22 April 2019 | 1h 24m | Listen Later | iTunes
Conversation with Anne Helen Petersen and Derek Thompson about their essays on millennial burnout and workism. Discusses what happens when work becomes an identity, capitalism becomes a religion, and productivity becomes the way we measure human value.

Malcolm Gladwell on the Danger of Joining Consensus Opinions

The Ezra Klein Show | 23 August 2016 | 1h 30m | Listen Later | iTunes
Interview with Malcolm Gladwell delving into his process to generate contrarian perspectives. Topics include: Gladwell’s early career; how Canadians are disinclined to escalate conflicts; the value and nature of boredom in childhood; how people reflexively pile on to convenient narratives; why podcasting is different from writing for the page/screen; how the internet will one day seem like an experiment gone completely awry; and the importance of people who are above average though not exceptional.